Tips
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Lili's Matterhorn (d+3+4) is extremely punishable at -21; use your ws1 (i15) or f,F+2 to launch her for massive damage.
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Lili's Edelweiss (db+4) is a slow i30 low that is -24 on block; block low and use ws1 for a guaranteed launch.
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Lili's df+3 is +3c on block, giving her a frame advantage; avoid pressing buttons immediately after blocking this mid heel.
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If Lili uses f,F+3,3+4, the final hits are -8 on block; you can take your turn back immediately with your i10 jab or b+2.
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Lili's 1+2 (Broken Heart) is -12 on block; punish it with your 1,1,2 or 2,2 string to discourage her from using it as a fast mid check.
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Lili's d+3+4 has high crush properties starting at frame 14, so use your mid knees like df+3 or df+4 to stop her from jumping over your lows.
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Lili's BT.d+3+4 is -26 on block and causes a stagger; you have ample time to land your most powerful launcher.
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Lili's qcf+3+4 (DEW.3+4) is +6 on block; do not attempt to interrupt her follow-up as she has a significant frame advantage.
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FAQ
Who wins Victor vs Lili in Tekken 8?
Across 4 recent start.gg major sets, Victor is 4–0 against Lili. Sample size is still small, so treat the record as directional.
How do you beat Lili as Victor?
Lili's Matterhorn (d+3+4) is extremely punishable at -21; use your ws1 (i15) or f,F+2 to launch her for massive damage. Lili's Edelweiss (db+4) is a slow i30 low that is -24 on block; block low and use ws1 for a guaranteed launch. Lili's df+3 is +3c on block, giving her a frame advantage; avoid pressing buttons immediately after blocking this mid heel.
Are there pro VODs for Victor vs Lili?
No tournament VODs are listed for Victor vs Lili yet. The tips above still cover the main patterns while we index more sets.
Punishers
Lili moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Victor's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.
| Lili move | On block | Punish with | Startup | Damage |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| db+4 | -24 | ws3,2 (launch) | i14 | 39 |
| uf+3+4,3+4 | -21 | b+3,1 (launch) | i17 | 40 |
| d+3+4 | -21 | b+3,1 (launch) | i17 | 40 |
| f+3+4,3,4 | -20 | b+3,1 (launch) | i17 | 40 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | b+3,1 (launch) | i17 | 40 |
| db+3+4 | -18 | ws3,2 (launch) | i14 | 39 |
| u+3 | -16 | f+4,1 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| 1,1,3 | -15 | f+4,1 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| f+2,3 | -15 | f+4,1 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| d+4 | -15 | ws3,2 (launch) | i14 | 39 |
| d+2,2,4 | -13 | 4,3 | i13 | 32 |
| df+4,4 | -13 | ws1+2 | i13 | 22 |
Victor moves Lili can punish
| Victor move | On block | Lili punishes with |
|---|---|---|
| db+4 | -26 | ws3 |
| b+1+4 | -21 | u+1+2** |
| u+1+2 | -20 | u+1+2** |
| uf+4 | -19 | u+1+2** |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | u+1+2** |
| df+3+4 | -17 | b+1,4 |
| d+1 | -17 | ws3 |
| f,F+2 | -16 | uf+3+4,3+4 |
start.gg majors
Across 4 start.gg major sets, Victor is 4–0 against Lili.
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