Tips
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Lili's Matterhorn Ascension (d+3+4) is extremely evasive but is -21 on block, allowing for a maximum damage punish like f,F+2 or FC.df+2.
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Check Lili's Backturn (BT) transitions with 1+2; it is an i12 mid that is -12 on block, effectively stopping her from cycling through stances.
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If Lili uses Edelweiss (db+4), block and punish heavily as it is -24 on block and very slow at i30.
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Use f+4 to maintain pressure; it is +4 on block and enters Fujin Step (FUJ) for further mixups, making it difficult for Lili to sidestep out.
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Punish Lili's Mars Sword (f+2,3) with a full combo or 1,1,2, as the second hit is -15 on block.
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Against Lili's Feisty Rabbit (RAB) stance, use df+1 to check her; it is i13 and safe at -5 on block, preventing her from completing slow stance options.
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Heihachi's Electric Wind God Fist (f,n,d,df:2) is +5 on block, which is vital for keeping Lili pinned down and limiting her lateral movement.
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Lili's Horizon Slide (FC.df+3) can be up to -18 on block; be ready to punish with ws4,4 or ws1.
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FAQ
Who wins Heihachi vs Lili in Tekken 8?
We do not have enough recent major-set data yet for a reliable Heihachi vs Lili winrate. Use the tips and VODs below while more tournament results come in.
How do you beat Lili as Heihachi?
Lili's Matterhorn Ascension (d+3+4) is extremely evasive but is -21 on block, allowing for a maximum damage punish like f,F+2 or FC.df+2. Check Lili's Backturn (BT) transitions with 1+2; it is an i12 mid that is -12 on block, effectively stopping her from cycling through stances. If Lili uses Edelweiss (db+4), block and punish heavily as it is -24 on block and very slow at i30.
Are there pro VODs for Heihachi vs Lili?
No tournament VODs are listed for Heihachi vs Lili yet. The tips above still cover the main patterns while we index more sets.
Punishers
Lili moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Heihachi's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.
| Lili move | On block | Punish with | Startup | Damage |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| db+4 | -24 | ws3,1+2 (launch) | i18 | 30 |
| uf+3+4,3+4 | -21 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| d+3+4 | -21 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| f+3+4,3,4 | -20 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| db+3+4 | -18 | ws3,1+2 (launch) | i18 | 30 |
| u+3 | -16 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| 1,1,3 | -15 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| f+2,3 | -15 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| d+4 | -15 | ws4,4 | i11 | 29 |
| d+2,2,4 | -13 | f+2~1,1+2 (launch) | i13 | 44 |
| df+4,4 | -13 | ws4,4 | i11 | 29 |
Heihachi moves Lili can punish
| Heihachi move | On block | Lili punishes with |
|---|---|---|
| f,n,d,DF+3 | -23 | ws3 |
| f,n,d,DF+4 | -23 | ws3 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | u+1+2** |
| db+2 | -18 | ws3 |
| 1,1,WAR.2 | -17 | b+1,4 |
| df+2,1 | -17 | b+1,4 |
| df+2,WAR.1 | -17 | b+1,4 |
| 1,1,2 | -17 | b+1,4 |
VODs (Heihachi's side)
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