How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (1)

Lili's Matterhorn (d+3+4) is extremely evasive but is -21 on block; use your most powerful launcher to punish this high-risk move.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (2)

If Lili uses the slow Edelweiss (db+4) low sweep, it is -24 on block, giving you ample time for a full ws2 launch.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (3)

Lili's BT.2 power crush is -13 on block; use your i13 1+2 Heat Engager to punish her for trying to armor through your pressure.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (4)

Lili's f,f,F+3 and f,f,F+1+2 are plus on block (+3 and +4); do not press buttons afterward and respect her frame advantage.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (5)

Many of Lili's common strings like 1,2,3 and 2,3 end in a low that is -13 on block, which you can punish with ws1,2.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (6)

Lili's b+1+2 backswing blow is -12 on block; punish it with 4,2 to prevent her from resetting neutral for free.

How does Clive beat Lili in Tekken 8? (7)

Lili's u+3 and f,F+2 are both -16 and -13 respectively, making them unsafe; use your i13 1+2 to punish consistently.

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Tips

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Lili's Matterhorn (d+3+4) is extremely evasive but is -21 on block; use your most powerful launcher to punish this high-risk move.
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If Lili uses the slow Edelweiss (db+4) low sweep, it is -24 on block, giving you ample time for a full ws2 launch.
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Lili's BT.2 power crush is -13 on block; use your i13 1+2 Heat Engager to punish her for trying to armor through your pressure.
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Lili's f,f,F+3 and f,f,F+1+2 are plus on block (+3 and +4); do not press buttons afterward and respect her frame advantage.
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Many of Lili's common strings like 1,2,3 and 2,3 end in a low that is -13 on block, which you can punish with ws1,2.
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Lili's b+1+2 backswing blow is -12 on block; punish it with 4,2 to prevent her from resetting neutral for free.
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Lili's u+3 and f,F+2 are both -16 and -13 respectively, making them unsafe; use your i13 1+2 to punish consistently.

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Punishers

Lili moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Clive's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.

Lili move	On block	Punish with	Startup	Damage
db+4	-24	ws3 (launch)	i20	35
uf+3+4,3+4	-21	uf+2,2 (launch)	i20	64
d+3+4	-21	uf+2,2 (launch)	i20	64
f+3+4,3,4	-20	uf+2,2 (launch)	i20	64
R.df+1+2	-18	3,2 (launch)	i16	46
db+3+4	-18	ws1,2 (launch)	i13	30
u+3	-16	3,2 (launch)	i16	46
1,1,3	-15	df+2,2 (launch)	i15	35
f+2,3	-15	df+2,2 (launch)	i15	35
d+4	-15	ws1,2 (launch)	i13	30
d+2,2,4	-13	2,1 (launch)	i12	31
df+4,4	-13	ws1,2 (launch)	i13	30

Clive moves Lili can punish

Clive move	On block	Lili punishes with
df+3	-26	ws3
R.df+1+2	-18	u+1+2**
df+1,4,3	-18	u+1+2**
3,3	-18	u+1+2**
db+4	-18	ws3
uf+2	-17	b+1,4
d+3	-17	ws3
df+1,2	-16	uf+3+4,3+4

Frame data: Wavu Wiki (CC0).

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