Tips
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Lidia's Political Storm (f+1+2,3,1+2) is a Heat Engager but is punishable at -15 on block, allowing Jack a full launch with df+2.
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Jack's f,f,f+2 is +6 on block and chip damages, making it an excellent tool to keep Lidia pinned down and unable to safely enter Horse Stance (f+3+4).
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Lidia's db+3 sweep is i16~17 and only -11 on block; punish it consistently with Jack's ws4 or f+2 to discourage her low game.
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Lidia's ws3 is a -12 mid launcher; use Jack's f+2 or 2,1,2 to punish it effectively.
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Jack's b+2 is a safe +2 on block Heat Engager that can out-range many of Lidia's i10-i13 pokes, keeping her at a distance.
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Lidia's f,F+3 is a mid launcher that is -14 on block; use Jack's df+2 for a guaranteed i15 launch punish. Note that Lidia's ws2 is only -12 on block.
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Punishers
Lidia moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Jack-8's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.
| Lidia move | On block | Punish with | Startup | Damage |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| f,F+4,3 | -27 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| d+3 | -16 | ws2,4 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| b+3,4,1+2 | -15 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| f+1+2,3,1+2 | -15 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| d+4 | -15 | ws2,4 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| 4,3 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| f,F+3 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| d+2 | -14 | ws2,4 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| f+2,4 | -13 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| df+1,3 | -13 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| 1,2,4 | -13 | ws4 | i11 | 20 |
Jack-8 moves Lidia can punish
| Jack-8 move | On block | Lidia punishes with |
|---|---|---|
| f,F+1+4 | -82 | db+3+4,P.1 |
| df+2,1* | -46 | db+3+4,P.1 |
| b,db,d,df+1 | -37 | ws1,4 |
| df+1+4 | -37 | ws1,4 |
| db+2* | -33 | ws1,4 |
| df+2,1 | -32 | db+3+4,P.1 |
| df+3+4 | -23 | db+3+4,P.1 |
| db+3 | -20 | ws1,4 |
start.gg majors
Across 3 start.gg major sets, Jack-8 is 0–3 against Lidia.
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Matchup charts: Jack-8 · Lidia
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