Tips
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Use Jack's b+2 (i19 startup) as a safe Heat Engager (+2 on block) to pressure Steve and force him to respect your mid options.
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Steve's Quick Hook (b+1) is -14 on block; use Jack's 1,1 or df+2 to punish if he doesn't transition into Flicker stance.
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Jack's f,f,F+2 is +6 on block and deals 7 chip damage, making it an excellent tool to close the gap and maintain frame advantage against Steve.
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If Steve uses PAB.d+1 (i15 startup), it is -12 on block; punish it consistently to discourage his low pressure.
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Punish Steve's Sonic Fang (1+2) with your f+2, as it is -12 on block.
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Punishers
Steve moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Jack-8's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.
| Steve move | On block | Punish with | Startup | Damage |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| df+1,2~f+1+2,1,1 | -25 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| df+1,2~f+1+2,1 | -19 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| d+2 | -18 | ws2,4 (launch) | i14 | 36 |
| u+2 | -15 | f,F+1+2,2 (launch) | i15 | 44 |
| 2,2 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| f+1+2 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| uf+2 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| b+1 | -14 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| f+1+2,2 | -13 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| f,F+2 | -13 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
| db+1+2 | -13 | 1,2 (launch) | i12 | 34 |
Jack-8 moves Steve can punish
| Jack-8 move | On block | Steve punishes with |
|---|---|---|
| f,F+1+4 | -82 | ub+1+2 |
| df+2,1* | -46 | b+1+2,H.1+2 |
| b,db,d,df+1 | -37 | WS.2,2 |
| df+1+4 | -37 | WS.2,2 |
| db+2* | -33 | WS.2,2 |
| df+2,1 | -32 | b+1+2,H.1+2 |
| df+3+4 | -23 | b+1+2,H.1+2 |
| db+3 | -20 | WS.2,2 |
start.gg majors
Across 5 start.gg major sets, Jack-8 is 3–2 against Steve.
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Matchup charts: Jack-8 · Steve
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