Tips
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Many of Raven's phantom extensions, such as df+1,4 and SZN.1,4, are -13 on block, making them punishable by Alisa's ws1,2 or f+1+2.
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If Raven uses b+1 to gain massive +7c frame advantage on block, be wary of his follow-up mixups as you are forced into a crouching state.
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Use Alisa's f,f,F+2 to pressure Raven at range; it is +5~+7 on block and enters Destructive Form, forcing Raven to deal with your chainsaw mixups.
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Raven's f+4 is a high i15~16 launcher that is -12 on block; punish it consistently with 1,1 to discourage him from using it as a counter-hit tool.
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FAQ
Who wins Alisa vs Raven in Tekken 8?
We do not have enough recent major-set data yet for a reliable Alisa vs Raven winrate. Use the tips and VODs below while more tournament results come in.
How do you beat Raven as Alisa?
Many of Raven's phantom extensions, such as df+1,4 and SZN.1,4, are -13 on block, making them punishable by Alisa's ws1,2 or f+1+2. If Raven uses b+1 to gain massive +7c frame advantage on block, be wary of his follow-up mixups as you are forced into a crouching state. Use Alisa's f,f,F+2 to pressure Raven at range; it is +5~+7 on block and enters Destructive Form, forcing Raven to deal with your chainsaw mixups.
Are there pro VODs for Alisa vs Raven?
No tournament VODs are listed for Alisa vs Raven yet. The tips above still cover the main patterns while we index more sets.
Punishers
Raven moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Alisa's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.
| Raven move | On block | Punish with | Startup | Damage |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3~4,F | -39 | b+3+4,3+4 (launch) | i18 | 59 |
| b+2,2,1+2 | -30 | ws2 (launch) | i17 | 24 |
| b+4,B+4~3,3+4 | -25 | b+3+4,3+4 (launch) | i18 | 59 |
| uf+3+4,3+4 | -25 | b+3+4,3+4 (launch) | i18 | 59 |
| b+2,2,3 | -19 | b+3+4,3+4 (launch) | i18 | 59 |
| R.df+1+2 | -18 | b+3+4,3+4 (launch) | i18 | 59 |
| u+3,3 | -16 | ws1,2 | i13 | 24 |
| 4~3 | -16 | b+1,1+2 (launch) | i15 | 46 |
| df+2,4 | -15 | b+1,1+2 (launch) | i15 | 46 |
| uf+4,4 | -15 | b+1,1+2 (launch) | i15 | 46 |
| b+1+2 | -15 | b+1,1+2 (launch) | i15 | 46 |
| f+3,2 | -14 | 2,2 (launch) | i12 | 32 |
Alisa moves Raven can punish
| Alisa move | On block | Raven punishes with |
|---|---|---|
| ub+4,1,1,2,1,1,3+4,3 | -65 | u+3,3 |
| uf+3 | -52 | u+3,3 |
| b+4,4 | -37 | u+3,3 |
| d+3+4 | -37 | ws3,H.2 |
| ub+4,1,1,2,1,1,3+4,3,2 | -30 | u+3,3 |
| ub+4,1,1,2,1,1,3+4 | -29 | ws3,H.2 |
| ub+4,1,1,2,1,1,3+4,3,2,2 | -23 | f,f,F+3,H.4 |
| ub+4,1 | -21 | f+3,2 |
start.gg majors
Across 1 start.gg major sets, Alisa is 1–0 against Raven.
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