Kuma VS Lili

Kuma vs Lili

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Tips

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    Lili's Matterhorn Ascension (d+3+4) is extremely evasive but is -21 on block; ensure you punish this with a full launcher like f,F+2.

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    Use df+4 (i12) to check Lili's movement, as it is safe at -4 on block and provides a +7 advantage on hit to maintain pressure.

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    Lili's Edelweiss (db+4) is a slow i30 low launcher that is -24 on block; react and punish heavily to discourage her from using it.

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    In HBS, use HBS.df+1 to track Lili's sidesteps as it is a homing mid that is safe at -7 on block.

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    Lili's 1,2,3 string ends in a low that is -13 on block; use Kuma's ws1,2 or ws2 (i15) for a guaranteed punish.

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    If Lili enters Backturn (BT), be wary of BT.d+3+4, a low that is -26 on block and leads to a stagger, giving you a massive opening.

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    Use b+1+2 (Bear X) as a i18 Heat Engager; it is safe at -8 and its range can catch Lili trying to backdash or sidestep.

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    Lili's f,f,F+3 is +3 to +10 on block; do not press buttons after blocking it, as she will likely follow up with fast BT options.

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Punishers

Lili moves that are −10 or worse on block, with Kuma's best standing punisher (first hit or two-hit string, no Heat or Rage). Lows are punished from crouch with a while-standing (ws) move.

Lili moveOn blockPunish withStartupDamage
db+4-24ws1,2** (launch)i1351
uf+3+4,3+4-21db+1,2** (launch)i1441
d+3+4-21db+1,2** (launch)i1441
f+3+4,3,4-20db+1,2** (launch)i1441
R.df+1+2-18db+1,2** (launch)i1441
db+3+4-18ws1,2** (launch)i1351
u+3-16db+1,2** (launch)i1441
1,1,3-15db+1,2** (launch)i1441
f+2,3-15db+1,2** (launch)i1441
d+4-15ws1,2** (launch)i1351
d+2,2,4-13f+2,1 (launch)i1231
df+4,4-13ws1,2** (launch)i1351
Kuma moves Lili can punish
Kuma moveOn blockLili punishes with
b+3+4-28u+1+2**
f+3+4-23ws3
db+4-23ws3
b+1+4,f,f-20u+1+2**
f,F+2-19u+1+2**
R.df+1+2-18u+1+2**
ub+1+2-17ws3
d+3-17ws3

Frame data: Wavu Wiki (CC0).

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